tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post7718806106767789009..comments2023-10-11T04:38:51.793-07:00Comments on Accept The Challenge: Tuesday ScattershotChief Instructorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13604561415860237705noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post-40503231015204187682014-01-11T12:50:27.995-08:002014-01-11T12:50:27.995-08:00Sue - It's odd, your comments, for some reason...Sue - It's odd, your comments, for some reason, always get put into my spam folder on blogger. No idea why.<br /><br />If I remember correctly, Catholics were originally allowed to be married, but the priests, bishops and cardinals would set up these "family businesses" where they'd pass their parish to their sons. It was about money, not religion, and the larger church then required celibacy so that these "businesses" would be broken up. Sometime in the 11th century, I believe.<br /><br />The celibacy and no women priests things are just a couple of things that keep me away from Catholicism. I'm not a big fan of large denominations in general, though! I talk to God every day, and don't need someone telling me when and where to do it.<br /><br />Philosophically, I like the idea of women as priests. I can't see why a woman can't speak the Word of God just as well as a man. Still, I've never heard a woman priest/preacher speak. New item for my To Do list!Chief Instructorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13604561415860237705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post-40985368933506549502014-01-10T08:59:15.056-08:002014-01-10T08:59:15.056-08:00Oops. Should be "when they apparently aren...Oops. Should be "when they apparently aren't considering becoming nuns"<br /><br /> Would women consider becoming priests when they apparently aren't considering becoming priests?sueknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post-7149371535121342902014-01-10T08:56:39.770-08:002014-01-10T08:56:39.770-08:00I disagree on the ordination of women. It seems t...I disagree on the ordination of women. It seems to me to go back to the roles assigned women and men by nature. It's true that women can dedicate their lives to celibacy - vis a vis nuns - but are they also going to consider eliminating the celibacy requirement? Now...if there's no celibacy, then women might be having children...who do they serve first? their natural born children or the parish they serve? (I'm against eliminating the celibacy clause for men as well, for the same reason. Though I could see work arounds - celibacy for a certain number of years - missionary years, so to speak - and then marriage allowed. But you still have the same problem - which comes first? "No man can serve two masters" dilemna.) But assuming that women accept the celibacy requirement - is there any reason they couldn't be priests? Maybe not except that it doesn't fit the family with father as the head of the family mold. <br /><br />Also, consider the reduction of numbers of nuns at present compared to the past. Would women consider becoming priests when they apparently aren't considering becoming priests? If so, that indicates a mental approach that seems to me to be indicative of an unwillingness to serve - a sort of pride that would be undesirable in a priest. <br /><br />Obviously, I'm not totally opposed, but definitely prejudiced against it. Not surprising considering my age and upbringing!!sueknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post-60740649918040833522014-01-06T08:27:43.672-08:002014-01-06T08:27:43.672-08:00Sue - my wife (who is Catholic) and I were talking...Sue - my wife (who is Catholic) and I were talking about him this weekend. Apparently, he made some announcement about allowing women to be ordained. I think that's absolutely fantastic.<br /><br /><i>First, morality depends on freedom of choice. Animals lack same, and cannot make moral choices. If the government requires taxes to feed the poor, there is no choice. No choice, no morality.</i><br /><br />Absolutely spot on, hit one out of the park! It is immoral when government imposes a law on supposed moral grounds, as all law is ultimately enforced at the point of a gun.Chief Instructorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13604561415860237705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964596045360803212.post-44398396391367067932014-01-05T13:43:52.927-08:002014-01-05T13:43:52.927-08:00I'm Catholic. I don't have an opinion of ...I'm Catholic. I don't have an opinion of the Pope yet - not that my opinion matters one way or the other. I'm sort of on the same page that you are, but have also read articles that say "hold off a bit" on the condemnation of his views of capitalism. Reason being that we need to remember that he's from Argentina and as such, he's seen the worst of the worst that capitalism has to offer. It shouldn't be a surprise that his views toward it are negative.<br /><br />Ok...so I'll hold off. <br /><br />There are a couple of points that need to be kept in mind - if you have a religious point of view. First, morality depends on freedom of choice. Animals lack same, and cannot make moral choices. If the government requires taxes to feed the poor, there is no choice. No choice, no morality.<br /><br />Second, it's _love_ of money that is immoral, not money itself. There are 2 parables that specifically refer to wealth (at least that I remember) - one was the "What must I do to get to heaven" ("sell what you have and give to the poor, come follow Me"), and the other was the story of the employees given money to care for while their master was gone - one buried the money to keep it safe, a second did something else, and the third invested it and made profits for the master. He was the one that got the praise for doing the best. So it seems that earning a profit is a good thing - you just have to share it to be a morally good person. <br /><br />I especially don't want to leave it to the government to determine how "good" I should be. I'll leave that up to the Judge.sueknoreply@blogger.com